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Preserving Life: A Doctor's Perspective
What happens when a doctor stands firm in his convictions to protect life despite professional pressure? Dr. Sancetta, Medical Director at Eve's Hope Pregnancy Care Center, reveals his journey through four decades as a pro-life OB-GYN in a field where such perspectives are increasingly rare.
Drawing from personal heartbreak, Dr. Sancetta shares the story of losing his own child to abortion 43 years ago when his girlfriend terminated their pregnancy despite his pleas to parent the baby himself. "It doesn't leave you," he confesses, explaining how this profound loss shaped his approach to patient care and his unwavering commitment to offering alternatives to abortion.
With startling candor, he exposes what he calls "deliberate misrepresentation" in medical education, describing how some schools present embryos as "bacteria in a petri dish" rather than recognizable human beings. This lack of transparency extends to patient care, where he advocates for true informed consent—showing women accurate representations of their developing babies before they make life-altering decisions.
The conversation delves into politically charged topics with refreshing medical expertise, including the "mother's life in danger" exception that Dr. Sancetta calls "extremely rare" in his experience delivering almost 5,000 babies. He shares cases of patients with cancer who carried their pregnancies to term successfully despite pressure to terminate, and explains his willingness to take high-risk cases other doctors avoid.
Perhaps most thought-provoking is his discussion of fathers' rights—or lack thereof—in pregnancy decisions. "If the father should have responsibilities, he should have rights also," he argues, spotlighting an often-overlooked perspective in abortion debates.
Ready to see pregnancy care with compassion and truth at its center? Connect with Eve's Hope at eveshopeinfo.com or pregnancyoptionsmiami.org to learn about their services throughout Miami-Dade County.
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Speaker 2:And we are back with some of our dear friends from Eve's Hope. Ladies and gentlemen, it's good to have everyone here with us.
Speaker 3:Thank you, it's great to be here.
Speaker 4:It's good to be back and we have one new voice.
Speaker 5:Hi, this is Dr Sancetta. Nice to be here.
Speaker 2:Yes, Dr Sancetta, good to have you and just so excited to speak with you, to get to know you a bit. Let me just allow you to introduce yourself to the listeners to start off.
Speaker 5:All right, I'm an obstetrician gynecologist. I've been in practice since 1989 in the Miami area, did training up in Georgetown Medical and training for deliveries up in Springfield, massachusetts, and have been in the field for quite a long time and have strong beliefs in being there to support life and certainly babies' lives and mothers' lives, and have seen old, typical possible issues that could arise in childbirth.
Speaker 2:You know, it's amazing and just really bringing the issue to the forefront, or the reality to the forefront that we're looking at here today. You, as a doctor, have, have partnered with or or support we're going to get into the details what exactly do you do over there? Uh, but, but you're taking a stand, you know you're taking a stand in this partnership, in this work, what you do at eve's hope, and tell us more, more about that. Uh, if, if you can at this time well, I mean all along.
Speaker 5:I've always been a pro-life person ever since I was was in school. Even in high school we used to debate about when does life begin, and have given a lot of thought to try to figure that answer out, which is really, since it's a continuum, it's really hard to say exactly when, but I've always been. I was raised Catholic, had parents who took us, know, took us to church every week and, you know, had strong beliefs also and I guess when just my whole being is always, you know, pro-life. I don't think I ever was any other than that. So, along the way things would occur, I went through medical school and then I decided to go into obstetrics and gynecology and at the time there was a lot of schools and programs that were pretty much insinuating that level. If you're not okay with abortion, then you probably shouldn't be applying here. Wow, and that was going on back when I was applying to residency programs somewhere like 19,. I guess it was 80. It must have been about 79 or so 79, 80.
Speaker 5:And the program I obviously matched with wasn't going to have that type of issue and so because I always told everybody that, look, I'm not interested in being involved with that, I'm pretty much a pro-life person and so that's how it kind of wandered and essentially in the residency, we really didn't have to get involved with anything related to abortion.
Speaker 5:However, at the time when I was rotating through pathology, they said well, do you want to see this outcomes of abortion? I felt at the time I wanted to see just so I'd have a concrete understanding as to what abortion means in the, you know the upfront way that you know after the fact, which definitely had an impact on me and, you know, strengthened my views of being against abortion, so you're saying when you actually did the research, it strengthened your convictions and your views.
Speaker 1:When you saw what it really is.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Wow, do you think and again we're going to kind of go on different trails here, but on that one thought do you think again, in your experience, decades of experience as a doctor, as a professional do you think that many people maybe have a number in mind don't know the realities of abortion? Do you think they're not informed? Do you think they just don't care?
Speaker 5:I know that's kind of a strong statement, but what's your thoughts? Well, I think there's a lot of deliberate misrepresentation as to what's occurring and to me that's really disheartening to think that people would do that. And I kind of was shocked to hear even from people amongst Eve's hopes whose daughters were in medical school saying that they showed a picture of like a nine-week fetus and it looked like a petri dish with bacteria growing on it. I mean, it really looked nothing like a nine-week fetus and I was shocked to hear that at the medical school level this is what they're teaching people.
Speaker 2:Because that's not true at all. That's not what it looks like.
Speaker 5:No, it's completely ridiculous to be suggesting that. And maybe when it's dismembered or smished up and whatever, yeah, in a blender, but that's not what a baby at nine weeks looks like. So why would they be telling people this? It's like do they want them to feel like it's not a big deal? It's only nine weeks, it's only this, that and the other. Therefore, it's not a life or something.
Speaker 5:It's almost like they're trying to imply certain things to give people the flexibility to be accepting of it and to me I think it's just misrepresentation and I don't think it's right, because what if someone finds out later on the truth of it? I always felt that, even as a resident, you know, up in Massachusetts. I made a suggestion because I said to one of the instructors I said look, you know, we talked to everybody about informed consent and it's such a big deal like to explain to them what's happening Like informed consent and it's such a big deal like to explain to them what's happening like if someone's having a hysterectomy, you gotta give them informed consent.
Speaker 5:Talked about what you're going to be doing, talk about the consequences and whatnot yeah, I was like, why don't we at least give people like, offer them to show them what it looks like?
Speaker 5:yeah like assuming someone's pregnant, is thinking about termination. Show them what the baby looks like at this gestation, to at least give them informed consent so that later on in life they don't come to find out that it was misrepresented to them, to have them have regret then because of something which wasn't how it was stated. At least to give them the opportunity to say, yeah, show me what it looks like, just so I know and I have informed consent. You don't have to force it on somebody.
Speaker 5:They refused to even give giving people any informed consent. You don't have to force it on somebody. They refused to even give giving people any informed consent.
Speaker 2:It's almost like they knew people would change their mind.
Speaker 5:Right or yeah. To me I couldn't believe it. They didn't think that this would be an issue. But to me it was an issue because, just like any other medical operation or procedure, you should have informed consent, and you know how else are people going to not have regret if, for some reason later on they find out what happened wasn't what they wanted?
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you just tuned in, you're listening to God's Way Radio, our segment, foster Friday, and we're here with some of the fine folks from Eve's Hope. You've heard from them before. I want to go to Wendy next, miss Wendy, because I heard her there commenting, you know, and she's here at Eve's Hope working full-time on the front lines there of the ministry. But we also have a special guest with us. He's graciously separated some of his time to be here, dr Sensetta. And before we go any further, actually before we go to Wendy, just to give the official information, dr Sensetta, and I have it written down, but I have you right here in front of me, I also have Miss Linda, so Dr Sensetta is the medical director of Eves Hill Pregnancy Care Center, the medical director, so he's joining us today, another component of the team there, so finally get to hear from him.
Speaker 2:So that's just catching up to those that are just tuning in now. And remember, if you're listening, you know I actually asked Dr Sancetta before we started you know where we would go with the interview, what things we would talk about. And he said, man, I'm open for discussion, I'm open for discussing the realities of the topics. So if you have a question or a comment, it could be a difficult question, it could be an encouraging comment, anything that you want to contribute to today's program minus you know, anything obviously that is not allowed per FCC to air on the radio. I don't think we're going to have anything like that, but we would love to speak with you or hear from you. 786-313-315 you can call or text us during this live program. 786-313-315 is the number to the studio. But, wendy, I heard you sort of chiming in there while dr sincera was talking it's just fascinating.
Speaker 7:We rely on doctors like Dr Sensetta for information, and if the medical professionals are giving us painting a picture allowing us to be flexible with how we're going to think about something, I mean that's a pretty powerful position. And then you have, as a group, doctors that have an agenda that purposely just everything you're describing. It just makes me angry yeah, it makes me angry.
Speaker 7:It's like you said, joey, when he said it's informed consent if we know the truth and the information then allows us to to make a decision, but it's we're making women are making decisions based on false information yeah, yeah, it's maddening.
Speaker 2:Dr senceta, I'm sure we'll come back to some of the specifics of this topic, but I did want to hear a little bit about how you got connected with Eve's Hope. I'm sure there's a story there somewhere.
Speaker 5:Yeah, there is a story. I was sitting there at church services on a Sunday and they were doing an interview with Linda about Eve's Hope and she talked about Eve's Hope and what they were doing to try to help women to come through their pregnancies in a positive way, and I had some experiences from residency that impacted me personally that I felt like maybe I could help, Maybe I could offer my services to see if that could be something I could be of value to Eve's hope. So I spoke to her afterwards and she was like absolutely, we could definitely use your help, and so that's how I kind of got involved.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. We're going to come right back to that. We actually have a call, so let's take this here. Good afternoon You're live on God's Way Radio. Where here? Good afternoon You're live on God's Way Radio. Where are you calling us? From Kendall, kendall Great to hear from the Kendall area. And what question or comment did you have for Dr Sancetta or any of the folks from Eve's Hope?
Speaker 8:Well, number one. I'd like to offer my gratitude to the doctor Unfortunately, there aren't too many MDs of his mindset in this modern world and also to offer an opinion. I was a father to a kid who got aborted and I think the missing link in this whole picture are fathers who didn't want their kid aborted. And they did get aborted and of course you know the mothers mostly afterwards are regretful of such a thing after you know it's too late after the procedure's done. But there are a lot of men who are suffering with this and I wanted to hear the doctor's experience after the procedure is done. But there are a lot of men who are suffering with this and I wanted to hear the doctor's experience, if he's had any, concerning this.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you so much. We're going to hang up the line here. Free up the line. Let the doctor contribute to your question. Thank you again for calling. Okay, and stay tuned for that answer.
Speaker 5:Got it? Well, it's interesting that you asked that question because I was in the same situation when I was a resident. I had a circumstance where I was dating a girl for several years. At the time she did get pregnant. It wasn't a mistake, it wasn't an accident and I had a strong feeling of fatherhood too and I was like I won't accept anything that involves abortion or termination.
Speaker 5:And unfortunately, despite my pleas, I offered to take care of all the monetary concerns because I had money saved up. At that point I said listen, if you want, I'll raise the child, just let me have the child, it'll get you through the pregnancy. And unfortunately she chose to. Well, her mother kind of encouraged her to choose to terminate and to this day I just constantly see that as my possible daughter or son that I'm missing still 43 years later. It was 43 years ago. It doesn't leave you, because I literally got sick to my stomach when she told me that she did that and she was like 10 weeks plus pregnant at the time and it was traumatic and for me it still bothers me, I still feel guilt about stuff of that nature thank you first of all for being so transparent.
Speaker 2:Um, and I I I see the god connection there with that phone call. I mean, I didn't, you know, for folks listening, especially some of our frequent listeners, I got the phone lines, uh, totally full. I have some texts here. Anybody that knows me or knows the station knows that I like to really do a lot of prep work in preparing for interviews. We didn't do any, you know, we didn't do any preparation, so I feel like I'm standing on holy ground here. So we're going to go in order here with these phone calls we're going to take. I believe this is Miami Florida. What area of Miami are you calling us from? I believe this is Miami Florida. What area of?
Speaker 9:Miami, are you calling us from South Miami Heights?
Speaker 2:South Miami Heights. Live on God's Word Radio. Did you have?
Speaker 9:a question or a comment for us today. You know, when we're talking about life, I can't help but to think of just life itself as a miracle, right. So many components and things that have to all come together, but even and I'm not a hundred percent sure the practice or the kind of medicine the doctor practices. But just as a doctor, if there has been any experience where when someone does a magic trick, the magician that knows the trick, kind of you see behind the scenes and you're like, oh, that's how that happened, I feel like sometimes doctors have a greater knowledge of what goes on and there's a lot of things that can be explained like oh well, that little thing turned into that, that's how that happened and you know, you kind of can explain it.
Speaker 9:But there's some things that are just unexplainable. We call them right, I mean some. Most of the time we'll call that a miracle. So in the medical, if he's had any experience where just something that just you had to look back and say I don't understand that one, but something had to have happened. God intervened, God was present, and I know God's present in everything, but just in that kind of explanation of like I know a lot and I couldn't even explain this, anything like that he might have.
Speaker 2:Does that make sense, Dr Sensetta?
Speaker 5:I could think of some. See, I guess one of the benefits of being a pro-life type of doctor is that I offer patients that's all I offer. I don't offer termination. And I've had cases where a patient who's married and had children and happened to be pregnant and she's like you know, I can't, I can't keep this pregnancy. I'm like, well, you know why not? What's the problem? She's like well, I, I have, I'm severely depressed, I have, uh, really bad nausea and I was like she goes, I've only wanted terminations. Well, I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. I don't do terminations, but I promise you I will carry you through and I'll do everything I can to get you through this pregnancy. So I put her on certain type of anti-anxiety things that help with her depression.
Speaker 5:We took care of the nausea and vomiting, and you know, she made it all the way through and then delivered her baby. And it was like a year later she comes to a visit with me and says you know, thank God that you know you told me to keep this child, this child is the lover of our life and you know so it's. You know situations like that and you know being an open-minded person and having the options, giving people options. I've had other women come to me who are in college and like, look, it's not the time for me to have a child, but they chose to, you know, know, have the baby, put it up for adoption. And I had another patient who was also involved with someone and got pregnant and they weren't ready to have children, and but since she chose the adoption route too, and all those situations worked out just fine, you know, and I'm happy to be a person who is available to you know offer that positive outlook on circumstances.
Speaker 5:I've even had cases where women who had, you know, situations where the baby wasn't going to do well like, had some anomaly where it wasn't going to be compatible with life.
Speaker 5:And the patients were, you know, came to me saying you know, I'm at the other office and they keep telling me when are you going to schedule the termination? And I'm like, you don't have to schedule any termination, you know what the outcome is going to be, but you can have your baby when god decides. When you go into labor it's like you don't have to force mother nature and say I want. You know we need to take it out now. This is no rush to do any of that. If the baby's not going to make it, it'll come eventually. So you just take care of that at the time that it comes. And you know it's just. There's no pressure to do that. You know, it really isn't in my mind unless somebody's life was at stake. But again, these situations that they talk about, the mother's, life was at stake are extremely rare.
Speaker 2:I mean really extremely rare. We're definitely going to get to that Again, you as a professional and being there, and you know it's not just the numbers. We'll get to that, my friend. Any follow-up question for Dr Sensetta?
Speaker 9:No, no, I appreciate it. I appreciate just the honesty and the experience.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for your phone call. Thank you, bye-bye. We'll talk to you later. We have another call here on hold. We're going to go to that in just a moment. If you were trying to call and you're getting a busy signal, we now have a free line 786-313-3115. You can call or text us now, 786-313-3115. I believe this is St Petersburg, florida, my brother. If this is you, I love you. I appreciate your call. I just ask you to keep it brief. Yes, it is, go for it.
Speaker 6:Okay, now that you have a doctor there next to you, I'll share something that happened to me a couple of years ago. I belong to a church in Miami and my doctor is a Christian doctor and he called me because I did some lab work. And he called me and said George, I need to see you because the lab work came out and I need to see you, okay. So I'm in the office waiting and he comes out and he goes did you pay the co-payment? No, no, I'm about to pay. No, you don't have to pay no, co-payment. What do you mean? Sit down, I'm not going to see you today. What do you mean? You're not going to see me. You called me, you said you wanted to see me. Yeah, for something else. And he goes. Okay, what is that? What do you need to see me? Stay here in the room, I'll be back. He went to get to his car or wherever he went, and he grabbed the Bible and he goes.
Speaker 6:George, the analysis came. This and this and this have you ever read about the Bible that talks about how to take care of your temple? What you read, to be honest with you, no, well, I'm going to read to you some verses of the Bible that and that's what you need to do Be obedient to the Lord. And man, no doubt man. He hit me hard. And then it's like one day in the bathroom I was walking my face and he was right there next to me. He didn't even recognize me. He tells me, is that you, george?
Speaker 2:Because you had improved.
Speaker 6:Yes, I did.
Speaker 2:I bought me a bike.
Speaker 6:I started bike riding, I started doing exercises like he told me to do. I was obedient to the word of God and he goes. George, do you have a visit this Monday? And I go. I know, Bro, what you do.
Speaker 2:It's great to hear. Here's what I'm hearing from your call and from your story. We have a remnant out there of honest, professional godly doctors, so we have one here in the studio and we have a story of another. George, I'm getting some texts here. We're getting some wonderful contributions, so we're going to go to the next listener. I thank you for calling, from St Petersburg Florida.
Speaker 6:Thank you, I'm praying. I'm praying, bye.
Speaker 2:Bye-bye. Thank you so much, dear brother. He calls almost every day. I mean man. I so appreciate him. We got a text here, doctor. This is amazing. We have a listener and she's connecting the dots. She said I won't share the name, but she said he delivered my son almost 25 years ago, dr Sensetta. So we have one of your patients here listening. They said sending a big, huge thank you for being so gentle with this young mama so many years ago. So if you want to say anything to her 25 years ago, she remembers that you were kind and gentle.
Speaker 5:Well, thank you so much. I'm glad to see that I was kind and gentle. You had that approach, but I appreciate your call, great, great.
Speaker 2:So we have a couple other questions here that we've gotten. Let me read them as they were written. Here we go, they said. So I'll just read it as it was written. You kind of started answering this already. In pro-life debates I always hear the hypothetical argument to legalize abortion for those cases when quote the mother's life is in danger. End quote as an OB, can you share your professional insight on number one? How often does a case that extreme uh, it's uh, hang on, it's kind of be that sure? Yes, how can a doctor be that sure that allowing a pregnancy to go to term will actually cause the mother to die? How can you know for certain? So number one is how often are you even presented with this case kind of case? Number two how can doctors be so certain? That's the question from one of our listeners.
Speaker 5:Okay, so I could preface it with my experience personally. I probably have delivered over 5,000 babies since 1981.
Speaker 5:5,000, in case that number went too quick by some listeners Between 4,500 and 5,000, without question in that range and I guess in that time the only one I could think of offhand that was possibly in the realm of you know is this the life of the mother or questions about the life of the mother was a case where a patient was about 19 or 20 weeks pregnant and she had developed or was found to have breast cancer.
Speaker 5:And they said well, you have breast cancer, and her doctor said you need to terminate the pregnancy and then we need to get you on chemotherapy and blah, blah, blah, this sort of thing right. And the patient was like I don't want to kill my baby, and so I talked to her. I was like, well, you don't have to kill your baby, you could choose to have your baby and then be treated after the baby's born. The surgeon at the time wasn't okay with that and pretty much said you know, in that case I terminate you as a patient and you can't see me anymore, which I thought wasn't really fair you know because the woman was in a situation where she's choosing the life of her unborn child.
Speaker 5:Why would you, you know, kind of say I abandoned you as a doctor? It kind of bothered me that that's how it went down. But I told her. I said no, no, no, no. You continue with what you feel comfortable with. I'll deliver your baby and then you'll get hooked up with you know another general surgeon to take care of your breast cancer, you know. So I mean, that was the only case I could think of. Now.
Speaker 2:I've had cases where Now, I'm sorry if it went by quickly and I missed it. What was the outcome of that?
Speaker 5:She had her baby. She went full term and delivered the baby and then got treated afterwards.
Speaker 1:That's it. That was the end of that Wow.
Speaker 5:And likewise, as I say, a lot of these people talk about anomalies and whatever. In most cases there's an anomaly. You can deliver that whenever it comes naturally. You don't have to terminate the pregnancy. It'll happen eventually on its own.
Speaker 2:And for those listening I think I understand. Maybe I could use some clarification. We say anomaly, that there's and again, I know some of these words are negative words or loaded words, and I'm even unmuting miss linda's mic as well, because I'm sure she sees this as well there's something wrong with the baby, or the baby has this thing or that thing. You're saying to wait and see the actual outcome.
Speaker 5:That's what we're talking about well, I mean, I think you could pretty much all right here's thing.
Speaker 5:There are several things that are tested for, especially nowadays very common to have a non-invasive prenatal testing where they draw blood from the mother and they could tell if the baby suffers from certain type of chromosomal abnormalities, like trisomy 13, 18, 15, and trisomy 21, which is Down syndrome, and then accordingly, a lot of people making decisions to terminate the pregnancy if they have one of those four situations.
Speaker 5:But I could only tell you from history of my patients and we were in one circumstance a long time ago where a patient had trisomy 18. And at the time I was reviewing it and reviewing what it meant to have tries me 18. They're saying, well, the baby has like a strawberry head type of thing, which I didn't know what the heck that meant, or anyway I I did my research and at the time I didn't know what to suggest to her, but she wanted referrals for termination and she ended up going and did have a termination from another doctor. But I went to research about trisomy 18. And to my surprise I come to realize that the babies can sometimes live to six years old.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 5:I looked at the pictures of them and I'm like this doesn't look like a strawberry head to me. It looks like a regular head to me. I think what are you talking about? Strawberry head sounds kind of like bizarre. But I mean these circumstances, I mean every individual case. People are going to choose what they do, but I think you have to come to. I'd like to just let it be what it is, be and have.
Speaker 5:God decide how things go about. I have many patients who have had Down syndrome babies and come back and tell me that they love this child, this apple of everybody's eye, and their family. So you don't just prejudge people based upon a chromosomal issue. I mean, god should be the only one to make that type of judgment on people, and that's how I like to leave it and try to give people encouragement in circumstances where they feel differently. I've had patients who took off to Portland, oregon, because they needed to terminate and they were beyond whatever time and they had some issue that they didn't want to bring to life.
Speaker 2:Even patients that you've had in your office.
Speaker 5:I've had one patient, that well, she had come to me, and she was an in vitro pregnancy, no less.
Speaker 5:And she decided that she wasn't going to accept it, for whatever reason. I don't recall exactly what the abnormality was, but it might have been Down's, I'm not really sure, but she was not going to have the baby and to me that was kind of sad, because someone goes through that much trouble to have a baby, and to me it's just sad. I mean, obviously I've had a child that didn't come to life, which, yeah, they say to this day, think about and uh and find it unfortunate. I couldn't do anything. And that's one thing I thought about at the time.
Speaker 5:There are no men's rights, you know, because remember back at the time they were like my body, my choice, if the woman chooses what they want, but if you have the baby, then paternity, you got to pay child support. It's like the man like what right does he have, like he had no say to tell somebody you have to have the child and yet on the other hand, he must pay for the child support. Should the woman on her own individually decide that she wants to keep a child? Well, you can't have it both ways. It doesn't make any sense, because if the father should have responsibilities, he should have rights also to say no, you have to have the child, I'll take care of the child. I you have to have the child, I'll take care of the child. I had money at the time, I would have taken over full care of the child.
Speaker 5:But there isn't anything like that and I just say that as a message to warn men about this circumstance, because I know there's a lot of men out there who probably were in my situation. I've had other people talk to me about the same circumstance also since this happened to me and it's sad because these men are standing up and deciding that they want to be a parent and they don't have the rights or non-existent.
Speaker 2:Yeah, brian, any thoughts on that? We do have Brian here.
Speaker 4:Ladies and gentlemen, yeah, no, I mean what he's highlighting. It's a big issue, right. And so because there is no legal standing for the man in that decision, then it's much easier for the man to believe the lie overall that he doesn't have a say, even though according to God he would have a say, but according to the law of the state he has no say. And so frequently what I see is he just remains quiet or he says well, whatever she wants, and then that's a big problem, right? So you know, perhaps we can't overcome the law at this point in time, but you can overcome the lie at least, and if that's what you want, you know, speak up.
Speaker 4:by all means speak up, because if you don't, then you know it increases the likelihood that she will decide to terminate.
Speaker 2:Because she's not sure what you think as the man, yeah, yeah, just sort of doing all that you can. There's a term for this. The men, in this case, are sort of at a disadvantage, right?
Speaker 4:Or there's another term for this You're starting off behind the starting line, in a sense, right so to gain every advantage that you can as the man in the relationship, the father, the, the supporter, and then if you're a godly man not everybody that comes into eve's hope obviously is is a christian or or has that belief system but if you do have that belief system and you know, but you believe in the god of the bible, then at that point you just have to say I've got to do what's right between God and me.
Speaker 4:You know, I have to try to be obedient to what God would have me do, and whatever she ends up doing is whatever she ends up doing. But I'm going to give it my best, you know, to live it out and speak up to and point out what I believe to the woman.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We're getting texts here. There's a couple ladies actually that are really you know, they're sending fire emojis. There's no men's rights. I agree 100%. They made this comment. They said we want men to step up, but don't give them a voice in the beginning and then society accuses them for being passive and lazy. So this perpetuating of this cycle incredible what we're discovering here in our conversation.
Speaker 2:Before we continue, I just want to welcome anybody that just tuned in. It's four o'clock here, and I say here because we actually do have folks that listen from different time zones. So it's four o'clock here in Miami Florida, april the 25th. We're live here in the studio. It's Friday and that means this is our segment, foster Friday, and if you've been listening for a number of months, we might be coming up on a year of this segment already. I have to go back and look. You know that Foster Friday can be anywhere from 10 or 15 minutes at the beginning of our live program to an hour with a studio full of people on the other extreme, and that's what we have today. We have four wonderful brothers and sisters here from Eve's Hope Pregnancy Center here in Miami Florida, not just in one place but with the mobile unit servicing all of Miami-Dade.
Speaker 3:County, pretty much All of Miami-Dade County, All of.
Speaker 2:Miami-Dade County and we're here today, especially with the medical director, medical director dr cincetta. So it's a great privilege and if you have any questions or comments we mentioned it earlier they might be difficult questions or they might be very encouraging comments. Either way, we want to hear from you 786-313-3115, the phone number to our studio, so you can text or call. Right now you only have a half an hour left to do so, so don't waste that 786-313-3115.
Speaker 2:I want to make a comment on some things that Brian said, and then I want to come back to the story. You know, if you guys remember, we actually had to cut into the middle of that story when Linda first gave that invite and first met Dr Sincetta. But I want to remind folks how God is really so amazing. If you go to our podcast, friends and Family by God's Way Radio, and if you go one, two, three, four episodes back, it is titled Brian and Wendy from Eve's Hope on the role of men in pro-life ministry, and we talked for an hour about that very topic. So go back and listen to Friends and Family from God's Way Radio. So, linda, what was going through your mind when Dr Sensetta responded that day after church?
Speaker 3:Well, I certainly said thank you God that day after church. Well, I certainly said thank you God, because finding someone who is pro-life and is an OB doctor is so difficult in this city.
Speaker 3:And so I remember the first time we were looking for somebody, I went to my pastor and I said I can't find anybody. Is there anybody that you can recommend? And so eventually we found Cynthia Bradley, and now we have Dr Sancetta, and it's been such a blessing because he gets it. I mean, he truly does get what we're trying to accomplish when we're ministering to her but also ministering to him. And, of course, brian is a care coordinator and he speaks to the men and he can speak on topic about what they're going through.
Speaker 3:And we realized a number of years ago that the men were sitting out. Those that did come to the center with their partner were sitting in the waiting room, nervous, anxious, not knowing what was going on, and so occasionally I would talk to them. Well, I'm a woman, I always felt like I was their grandmother talking to them. But I would bring them back and talk to them, offer them coffee and whatnot, and eventually we started having men come talking to men, so man to man, and encouraging them to speak boldly for the life of their child when they were choosing, when they wanted to parent, and she wasn't there, so equipping him with the things that she needed to hear what she wanted to hear from him. I'll be there, I'll support my child, and so on and so forth. So we've come a long way. So back then I remember and I say this often to doctors I remember when your wife was tapping me on the shoulder and pointing to her husband he wants to talk to you and I said, okay, okay, this is important yeah make sure you acknowledge him and talk to him yeah and um that same day yeah
Speaker 2:I also met brian oh, wow and that's good. So was this at the church you're still at now? Is this at a different church?
Speaker 4:yeah, same church. Awesome, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:So we're we got to give them a shout out. Who are we giving a shout out to? It's christ fellowship, giving a shout out to it's Christ Fellowship, christ Fellowship. Shout out to Christ Fellowship man. That's awesome. That's amazing. And about how long ago was this, this meeting?
Speaker 3:Three years ago.
Speaker 2:About three years. That's amazing. Yeah, about three years ago, that's amazing.
Speaker 3:And so what's? What's exciting to me, joey, is that three years ago I didn't know that we would have today in Florida a six-week bill, heartbeat bill. That's where we're at. I didn't know we would have that. Back then, abortion was at 25 weeks. Okay.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it was very different, and now we're at a place that is so different to us today. Over the last year it'll be a year next month that the six week bill has been in effect and Dr Sancetta has been willing to help walk us along the transition from that 20, not 25 weeks, because then it went to 15 weeks and and so he's worked with us as we've transitioned how to figure it out, because you know we have about a week and a half window to reach her.
Speaker 2:That's it. So, can you elaborate on that? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 3:So when she misses her period, she's usually around four weeks. Four weeks okay, she's waiting for her period. She's missed her period Four weeks, she's into the pregnancy Okay. So she waits a day Now, four weeks, one day Okay. On the second day she's going to Do a pregnancy test. Oh, my gosh, I'm pregnant Now. She's looking for her choices and hopefully she finds us. And we advertise we want to reach her. But once she's at six weeks there is no abortion for her. So she's quickly making a decision. So we're quickly, so we're reaching her and we're inviting her to come in.
Speaker 3:We're inviting her to have that ultrasound, and if she's too early and sometimes they're too early because we're not hearing that heartbeat yet we may see a fetal pull but, we're not hearing that heartbeat and we're inviting her back in and that is the key to ask her to come back in to make sure that she indeed is pregnant with a viable pregnancy, and so Dr Sensetta understands that and has allowed us to do that return ultrasound appointment.
Speaker 2:Let me ask you this how vital, because you've explained it to me, but whatever information you can share with the listeners, I think is such a blessing. Uh, linda, before we go back to dr senceta again, uh, his time here today, uh, but how vital and and how important and how much of a boost it is, or how much of a crucial part it is, to have a medical director, dr senceta, as part of the eve's hope team, and what difference does that make for you as a organization, as a ministry?
Speaker 3:okay, without him, without the medical director, without that OB or medical doctor, we would not be able to do anything medical. So he oversees the medical portion of what we do, gotcha. So his license is what allows us to do the pregnancy test, to do the ultrasound, to do all of that medical portion, and so we're under his supervision. So the medical team meets with him and they basically report to him and once they have the ultrasound, the ultrasound is sent to him. He reviews the ultrasound, approves it or whatever. We already have, um, the medical protocol as to what we're going to do, if, if this, if this, then that if this, then that okay.
Speaker 3:So he's established all the medical protocol and the medical team. We're blessed with some nurse volunteers and we have a nurse that's on staff as well, and so we're equipped today to do that medical much better than we did in the very beginning.
Speaker 2:Yeah, amazing. Thank you for sharing that. And Dr Sancetta, sort of going off of that, what else? Or you know, just kind of elaborating on that picture, your role at Eve's Hope. What else do you do there? How do you interact with folks? Maybe your favorite part of working with Eve's Hope, maybe, if it comes to mind any of the toughest parts, just your role with Eve's Hope.
Speaker 5:Well, as I say, it's not really a complex role. I mean, obviously I oversee the ultrasounds that are done there. When there's meetings, I'll be at the meeting, maybe giving my advice as to what I feel is appropriate, but I'm pretty lenient about that. I think a conversation should always be an opening for anyone. I don't think we should pick any time. The earlier you get to people to discuss issues with them, the better time you have. The earlier you get to people to discuss issues with them, the better. All you're doing is informing them of what's the possibilities for their pregnancy and that you have some people there who will support you through your pregnancy. And these are important issues that women who are scared and find themselves pregnant at an opportune time need to know that this is available to them.
Speaker 5:These are really caring people at the center who are there for them and you see the changes it makes in people's lives and for me, like if we could save a few more people from the situations that happened to me and Brian from the past. You know, then, we're doing a lot of good because these are issues that people remember, stuff for decades later and may have serious regret. And you know, if we can save a few babies' lives and people's lives. You know the mothers and parents of these children because you know, I don't see anybody regretting having a child when they do have a child.
Speaker 5:It doesn't mean life is always going to be easy. Life's not going to be easy, but you can get through and with the proper support you'll be okay, you know it'll be all right. Can get through and with the proper support you'll you'll be okay, you know it'll be all right. And even if someone says, hey, you know, I really don't want to have that burden they could put a child up for adoption. I've had many patients in my office uh, come to my office who and chose adoption as an alternative, which is totally reasonable alternative. Give the child, child a chance somewhere else. What's the big deal?
Speaker 5:yeah, you know, so I don't understand what the problem is with all this stuff.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, it's amazing and it's encouraging being in a room with like-minded people. I have the blessed privilege of having one of my children adopted. We adopted him and it's an honor. Dr Senset, I hope I can phrase this properly. I really do. How do you navigate? You know the phrase that you just said, the way that you just said it. You know I don't understand. You know how do you navigate those difficult conversations with a patient right in front of you?
Speaker 5:really, really not seeing eye to eye. Does that make sense? That question, yeah, and I think this is only a limited amount you can do as a doctor. I think you know as a doctor you kind of share with them your thoughts. You know you might share with them your history, what happened to you personally or what, why you aren't supportive of that. But people don't usually delve that deep. Usually they're going to talk to you briefly, realize you're not going to be there for them if they're planning termination and then they move on to another conversation with someone else. But I think just being there and espousing the views that you do is important for people to gather and say, well, my doctor doesn't think what I'm doing is a good idea. Maybe I should be thinking twice about this. I mean, I guess you put the seed of thought in their head you can get through this, it's going to be okay. Or put up for adoption. Look, I've had circumstances in my life. I've had ex-girlfriends who were pregnant in a bad way.
Speaker 5:I mean, the person came to me and we did the ultrasound and they said well, I'm only like someone with such weeks of pregnancy no, no, no, no, you're like 15 weeks. And then they remembered that they had a bad occurrence. You know where they were drugged and something happened to them and this was unknown, you know, but they were pregnant. Now, you know, and other people who had circumstances where something happened by accident, and a lot of them say you know, I had a dream and and I decided this I can't terminate, this isn't the baby's fault, this is the baby didn't do this. Wow, it's not the baby's fault. And I, and I always tell them look, I'll, I'll be your doctor, I'll carry you through, I'll, I'll deliver the baby for you. You know, don't worry about anything monetarily. You know, I'll take care of that circumstance. And you know, because you know, and if I could do that I'd, it'd be a blessing obviously it's worth it and I think that people, um, some people, have a conscience that it may come to them of a dream.
Speaker 5:They may be saying, hey, this isn't right. You know, even in bad circumstance people say, oh, in case of, in case of rape, and in case of this and the other, then you should allow it. It's like, well, no, really, the baby, the innocent baby on the inside, what did he?
Speaker 1:do. What did she do?
Speaker 5:I mean it's like so I don't know. I guess you could be as flexible as you want to be, and if you're a religious person and believe in the Bible and believe in good nature of Christ, why wouldn't you think that way? And so that's the way I look at it. If you can convince people to be open-minded and try to live on a positive, be optimistic and it'll work out. It all works out.
Speaker 2:It all works out. Yeah, if you're just tuned in, we have about 15 minutes left, believe it or not, with Wendy and Linda, dr Sonsetta and Brian from Eve's Hope Pregnancy Center here in Miami. So if you had any questions or comments for them, please give us a call or text us now before we run out of time 786-313-3115. And just to clarify, we adopted a child. Not that we gave up a child for adoption which nothing wrong, obviously but just wanted to clarify. We adopted a child, not that we gave up a child for adoption which nothing wrong, obviously but just wanted to clarify that one of my kids, we adopted them.
Speaker 2:Dr Sun said I wanted to ask you this and I don't know again. I just thought, man, we have a doctor here. But you know, I've always wondered and here's the question, what is the mechanism for life? In other words, how does this deal happen? Conception, you know, a baby coming into being. I mean, is it still unexplainable? We have the doctor here, how does you know? You know what I mean, I don't know. Maybe this is too philosophical here, maybe there's a textbook answer, but you know, we've seen videos or articles. But doctor, do we know yet? Do we know how this happened?
Speaker 5:Well, I think it's obviously a mystery to the whole thing. To some extent I know this. You can look at terms from the scientific aspect the, you know, the sperm meets the egg. There's an acrosomal reaction. Someone says there's a flash of light at the time of conception, wow and um, and so all this occurs. And then you, you're starting off with the very early, you know, fertilized egg and then it, you know, creates and continues to divide and becomes, eventually becomes an embryo and implants into the as the egg and travels down. It takes seven days for it to travel through the tube to get to the uterus and then finally, it implants.
Speaker 5:Now obviously things happen along the way, like if somebody, uh, his cycle is off, maybe that that doesn't implant properly and it comes out and that's the end of that. So I mean, things happen in nature that don't allow life to to to set foot sometime, but otherwise, you know, once it's implanted, well then it's going to grow in the uterus and hopefully it'll, you know, get get its way through to term. Uh, so again, there's a scientific way of looking at it, but there's also the spiritual way of looking at it and saying you know that god creates life.
Speaker 5:That's, that's uh, you know that's part of the whole deal here that's amazing, amazing, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for for uh uh giving us some of that. Uh, linda, what did you hand me here?
Speaker 3:that's something that we give to clients oh, that's awesome. It's a discussion piece. It's called milestones of early childhood and so you can see when conception happens, exactly what dr since that it just mentioned, and it is a flash of light that I'm that we read there and it's just a beautiful thing that's amazing.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna, I'm gonna hold on to this. Um, thank you. Thank you so much. Um, so, uh, we have dr senceta here and then we have three, uh, other folks from eve's hope number one that might have their own, uh sort of um, you know, updates or anything that we might want for the listeners and or might have better questions than I could think of that we can ask Dr Sensetta or topics that you might want to go to here live on the radio. So, whether Wendy or Linda or Brian, anything that you guys wanted to discuss while we have Dr Sensetta here today, the only other thing that I could think of is, you know, kind of more information or awareness on the laws and the changes in the laws. But besides that, if there was anything else the team here thought we could discuss, I just think it's been a fascinating time here with Dr Sonsetta.
Speaker 7:I mean, I've met with you before, but I don't have a question.
Speaker 7:I just wanted to say genuinely we are so thankful for you I know the medical team loves working with you and we just feel very blessed. Um, I told you this at the luncheon that we had, that you're often referred to and we talk about you, and just how thankful we are to god for you, thinking about all the stories that we've been able to share here at god's way, radio and um, under your covering, all those lives are being saved. I'm thinking about that man who we referred to your office. She didn't want to continue with the pregnancy but he wanted to fight for his baby and she didn't stay. She didn't keep the appointments, but he kept calling and you guys gave him support and then he would call the center and we would give him support. Well, that baby was born Awesome, and that baby was born and he loves her. Uh, he now has a daughter and they're not together, but he just speaks of what a blessing his daughter is to his life and and it started with a connection to your interesting, your practice very
Speaker 2:good that's amazing good that's amazing, um, I just wanted to. I don't know if it's here in the, in the literature, um, but I was very if it's here in the literature, but I was very interested. It takes seven days for which part of this which?
Speaker 5:process. Well, once egg is fertilized in the tube, then it takes seven days for it to travel down the tube into the uterus and then it implants. And then, once it implants, then it starts to create HCG, which is the saving thing that keeps the corpus luteum cyst on the ovary alive and keeps it going to protect the uterus from going into a period. So basically, that needs to get there in seven days and implant to create HCG, the pregnancy test hormone, in order to continue on.
Speaker 2:Got it. I'm going to have to re-listen to that multiple times, but seven days to travel down the tube, got it, I'm going to have to re-listen to that multiple times. But seven days to travel down the tube Got it.
Speaker 4:It almost sounds like on the seventh day it found rest. Yeah, that's amazing. I like that phrase.
Speaker 2:That's amazing. I mean that's why it stuck out to me. I mean I'm here actually texting with my wife. You know I'm still struck by that. Seven days it took God to create the known universe and each life. He takes seven days to have it travel down the tube. I mean, that's just still. My brain is not processing. But we have a text here, thankful to God for all of the Eve's Hope staff and Dr Sensetta for daring to go against the louder voices and giving families choice that honors God and human life. So, dr Sensetta, if you want to say anything to this person, that texted.
Speaker 5:Thank you very much for that statement, and I think many doctors are silent, but maybe you're thinking the way I'm thinking. I'm hopeful that they are. I know that we all work very hard trying to take care of mothers and babies and making sure they all come through in a healthy manner. And that's a big challenge in this field and I'm hopeful that other people will come to see life that way. It's always better in my mind to choose way. It's always better in my mind to choose life. It's a happier way to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me ask you this, dr Sensetta, of the folks that are listening, how can we pray for you as a doctor, as a man of God? How can we be praying for you, for you, for your practice, for your?
Speaker 5:patients, anything, anything is fine. I'm open to all prayers. We don't have a perfect life, but we're open to any prayers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let me ask you this what are some of the difficult parts of being an OBGYN? What are some of the harder parts of the profession?
Speaker 5:The harder parts of the profession is when patients have a very difficult outcome or case where things are going badly. Ob is a very difficult outcome or case where things are going badly. I mean OB is a very difficult field because it's kind of like its own universe. Nobody understands obstetrics other than obstetrician because we deal with it every day and when things go crazy in this specialty it could result in a lot of bleeding, hysterectomy, all kinds of crazy things can happen and some people don't make it through and some babies don't always make it through because of all that. So that's the challenge of it. I mean, I've been in this business for over 40-something years delivering babies and I still kind of practice the way I always have in terms of doing the high-risk cases and difficult cases, and sometimes I'm sort of in many respects I could have retired, but I still do this because if I'm not there, who else are?
Speaker 5:going to see for certain special procedures I do that other people don't offer. So I try to hang in there because I love that patients are grateful for the outcomes when they know that I was diligently by their side and taking good care of them and that's the reason why I still practice OB care of them and that's the reason why I still practice OB and I think, from the standpoint of my experience in the termination issue and what happened to me, I feel good supporting Eve's Hope and doing the best I can to try to bring people to see. My goal is to have information out there and have people understand what's going on and see that there's a positive viewpoint that they could have towards things and they can see things in a different way.
Speaker 4:And they have support here from a lot of pro-life organizations, including use hope, and they should entertain that as a possibility and, uh, and maybe that could be an outcome for them, a positive outcome, great, great yeah, no, I just wanted to build on what he was saying because, uh, you know, not, not every OB does the high risk patient or accept the high risk patient, like he does, and then having him as our medical director, uh, you know, more than once, in many times in fact, we have women that are concerned about high risk or in that situation of being high risk and then to be able to at least refer them straight to him for a consult.
Speaker 4:That's incredibly comforting, and so God orchestrated that.
Speaker 2:I see that as God orchestrating it, because is the implication that if it's high risk, other doctors would terminate in that case?
Speaker 5:Well, not necessarily, but the stuff I offer, like doing a vaginal birth after cesarean and things like that are just less and less doctors doing that. Or external cephalic version for breech if someone's breech, flipping it to head down to allow for vaginal birth. Like I'm pro-vaginal birth, I try to do everything, all natural if possible, and there's things you can do a lot of times to remedy situations. So that's the part of it that I gotcha I stand off for now. As far as high risk, uh, yeah, I mean that things happen in ob and someone goes from being normal risk to high risk like in a blink of an eye and that just is one of the things we have to deal.
Speaker 5:I've had cases where I had to do c-section in the emergency room and the baby survived, but we had to do it under local anesthesia right there in the emergency room wow and that baby was survived and uh. But I mean, those are crazy cases that maybe once in a lifetime case yeah, that's amazing.
Speaker 2:Again, if you wanted to call or text 786 313 315, 786 313 315, we have a very few minutes left here. I just got a picture. Is this you, sir?
Speaker 5:That is me.
Speaker 2:That's the mom from 25 years ago. That's awesome.
Speaker 5:That's a younger version of me.
Speaker 2:That is awesome. So, guys, if you're listening, I just got to tell you. I mean, I want this to be on on the record here. The god connections, um, so, uh, we, oh well, too late. She said you don't have to show him. I already did. Sorry, mom, sorry my sister, uh. So the god connection. We have somebody listening that, uh, he delivered their baby over 25 years ago. Uh, my wife is a doula. She's been there with Dr Sensetta once. She's hopefully going to be there twice, hopefully soon, with her clients. So it's amazing how God brings people together. Just amazing Family. Any closing comments here in the last few minutes? If not, hey, music's good too. We'll cut to a few minutes of music. But, dr Sensetta, in case I don't get a chance to say, thank you so much for coming in today for your time. I can imagine you have a lot of people waiting for you or trying to have some of your time. So thank you for coming in today.
Speaker 5:Trudy, you're welcome. It was my pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 3:Joey, we want to plug our website.
Speaker 2:Yes, please All that stuff. Yes, absolutely so.
Speaker 3:I'll let Wendy talk about that, because we're very excited about launching a new client site as well.
Speaker 2:I'm so sorry. We got a text that I didn't see. We got a text that I didn't see, so I want to get to it. I'm going to read it again as it's written. I don't even recognize some of the terms, so I'm just going to read it as it's written. They said first of all, for the record, I'm pro-life, but this is a common argument point. I hear Quote. I've heard that the DNC procedure being outlawed completely creates problems for the women who need a DNC because of a late-term miscarriage. Is this true?
Speaker 5:I don't see any contraindication where someone had miscarried and you're doing a DNC to clear out the placenta that's remaining. I've never heard of that being an issue. I know none of the hospitals that I work at would have any restriction on that.
Speaker 5:And certainly, if a baby is expired in the womb, then you could allow labor to occur because you don't want to have anybody getting infected. So I don't really see any contraindication for a doctor using prudent judgment in taking care of the patient who's still alive, which would be the mother in that circumstance.
Speaker 2:Okay great. I don't know half of the things there, but for who asked?
Speaker 4:they have the answer.
Speaker 2:And other folks will be able to get the information as well. Thank you. Thank you again for this texter. This is the first time they text us today, so that was great, and thank you for texting again, because I almost missed it, but please, let's give the information for Eve's Hope.
Speaker 7:All right. So we have big news on the website news and we have a new donor website. So if you go to eveshopeinfo, you will see updated information. Our mobile's now featured on there Very easy ways to connect to giving to our donation platform. And then on the client website we uh, it just got launched yesterday, so it's pregnancyoptionsmiamiorg, and you can see all the information that we offer to women that are looking for options and everything is there, and so you want to learn also about what abortion is, what options she has. Maybe you have a friend that comes to you to counsel. Go to that website.
Speaker 2:A lot of good information and it also pregnancy options dot pregnancy options miamiorg pregnancy options, miamiorg, and there's even a tab for men information about men.
Speaker 7:What if you find yourself in a brian you?
Speaker 2:did that one, you built that one well, I get to review.
Speaker 9:You're also a coder, you're also it every.
Speaker 2:well, how many things do you do? No, I'm just kidding. That's great Pregnancyoptionsmiamiorg.
Speaker 3:Right, but if you go to the eveshopeinfo, scroll all the way to the bottom or towards the bottom, and you'll get a tab that will allow you to go into that client portal.
Speaker 7:Perfect, yeah, get a tab that will allow you to go into that client portal. Perfect, yeah, it's called see what she sees.
Speaker 2:See what she sees excellent. Well, with that we are pretty much out of time. Thank you all for being here today. Again, thank you so so much. God bless you guys.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you, thank you joey and for those of you listening again, if you want any information on Eve's Hope, that website is eveshopeinfo eveshopeinfo and you heard that client site and it's all accessible from the main site. And if you ever want any more information, need to catch up on something or there was something you missed, or anything like that, just reach out to us here at God's Way Radio and I cannot encourage you enough. If you've been listening and if you are a Christian, pray, pray for Eves Hope, pray for all the organizations in Miami, pray for our community, pray for individuals, pray for the hearts of people and for those innocent babies.
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